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(2) the Pluralistic deon..."(1) Kantian ethics;<br />(2) the Pluralistic deontology, the non-absolutist ethics of W.D. Ross<br />(3) Rawls's Human rights objectivism, or<br />(4) rule consequentialism"<br /><br />Lord Cash Bottles missed one:<br />(5) Modern Objectivist Moosenutistic Logical Pluralism and Rothbardian Nose Size: Keys to Free Market Failure.<br /><br />All popular or obscure justifications for: State is god.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-43347214668503647742011-06-17T16:39:38.567-04:002011-06-17T16:39:38.567-04:00Lord Keynes, please read my responses to your post...Lord Keynes, please read my responses to your posts here:<br /><br />http://krugman-in-wonderland.blogspot.com/2011/06/war-war-war-yeah-that-will-make-us.html<br /><br />At this address:<br /><br />http://www.reddit.com/r/Major_Freedom/comments/i0ds5/response_to_lord_keynes_june_15th_2011/Major_Freedomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-89926269368457723912011-06-17T16:31:56.930-04:002011-06-17T16:31:56.930-04:00Lord Keynes:
Try addressing Feser's arguments...Lord Keynes:<br /><br /><i>Try addressing Feser's arguments:<br /><br />http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2009/08/rothbard-as-philosopher.html<br /></i><br /><br />http://www.reddit.com/r/Major_Freedom/comments/i2ep9/response_to_ed_feser_june_1th_2011/Major_Freedomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-32368629599449843612011-06-17T16:19:54.236-04:002011-06-17T16:19:54.236-04:00A desperate musical attempt at explaining praxeolo...A desperate musical attempt at explaining praxeology and mankind’s inherently limited knowledge:<br /><br /><em>I don’t know much<br /><br />But I know what you paid for that thing<br /><br />And that may be all I can really know.</em><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCfW2OwVwzsBob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-84211007010372683942011-06-17T15:58:12.531-04:002011-06-17T15:58:12.531-04:00Lord Keynes:
(1) Kantian ethics;
(2) the Pluralis...Lord Keynes:<br /><br /><i>(1) Kantian ethics;<br />(2) the Pluralistic deontology, the non-absolutist ethics of W.D. Ross<br />(3) Rawls's Human rights objectivism, or<br />(4) rule consequentialism<br /><br />can also show on objective moral grounds why the holocaust and mass murder etc is immoral.</i><br /><br />Rothbard demolishes utilitarianism via the "demonstrated preference principle."<br /><br />To wit, the utilitarian cannot claim to know what other individual's value scales are until those other individuals actually act upon their values, without coercion.<br /><br />The utilitarian is compelled to admit that utility is subjective to individual, and that he of course cannot read other people's minds. Praxeology enables us to understand that utility is manifested by observing individuals act uncoerced. Only after individuals act uncoerced can you know what their utility scale consists of (and you will only ever OBSERVE the top two values in their scale, namely, what they acquire (gains) and what they give up (costs)).Major_Freedomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-71757470858131317882011-06-17T15:55:33.681-04:002011-06-17T15:55:33.681-04:00Lord Keynes:
http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2009...Lord Keynes:<br /><br /><i>http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2009/08/rothbard-as-philosopher.html</i><br /><br />Who? Ed Feser? Stop the presses! I've read his post, and his claims are entirely false. When he's not engaging in ad populum fallacy, he's contradicting himself, engaging in semantics, committing the fallacy ad hominem tu quoque, being outright disingenuous, referring to illogical analogies, and committing non-sequiturs, among other things.<br /><br />He was exposed as completely wrong by Gerard Casey. How can you claim Rothbard was "taken down"?Major_Freedomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-38917490976655393832011-06-17T15:54:06.496-04:002011-06-17T15:54:06.496-04:00Lord Keynes:
(1) "It cannot be denied that F...Lord Keynes:<br /><br /><i>(1) "It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history."</i><br /><br />That is not Mises "praising" fascism. That is Mises stating in the 1920s (before the rise of Nazism) that fascism cannot do anything more than create a short term boost, the same kind of short term boost that Keynesians claim is had by their anti-market policies of government spending and inflation.<br /><br />The passage you quoted is in the chapter called "The Argument Of Fascism." There are other passages that give the passage you quoted more context:<br /><br />"Fascism can triumph today because universal indignation at the infamies committed by the socialists and communists has obtained for it the sympathies of wide circles. But when the fresh impression of the crimes of the Bolsheviks has paled, the socialist program will once again exercise its power of attraction on the masses. For Fascism does nothing to combat it except to suppress socialist ideas and to persecute the people who spread them. If it wanted really to combat socialism, it would have to oppose it with ideas. There is, however, only one idea that can be effectively opposed to socialism, viz., that of liberalism."<br /><br />and<br /><br />"It has often been said that nothing furthers a cause more than creating, martyrs for it. This is only approximately correct. What strengthens the cause of the persecuted faction is not the martyrdom of its adherents, but the fact that they are being attacked by force, and not by intellectual weapons. Repression by brute force is always a confession of the inability to make use of the better weapons of the intellect—better because they alone give promise of final success. This is the fundamental error from which Fascism suffers and which will ultimately cause its downfall. The victory of Fascism in a number of countries is only an episode in the long series of struggles over the problem of property."<br /><br />and<br /><br />"That its foreign policy, based as it is on the avowed principle of force in international relations, cannot fail to give rise to an endless series of wars that must destroy all of modern civilization requires no further discussion. To maintain and further raise our present level of economic development, peace among nations must be assured. But they cannot live together in peace if the basic tenet of the ideology by which they are governed is the belief that one's own nation can secure its place in the community of nations by force alone."<br /><br />Mises was, and remains, the world's foremost defender of capitalism and attacker of fascism. It was Mises who has provided us with the most blistering attacks on fascism ever written (see "Socialism" and "Human Action").Major_Freedomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-9046280831311550232011-06-17T13:46:27.764-04:002011-06-17T13:46:27.764-04:00@Bob
I am now quite sensitive to the economic cal...@Bob<br /><br />I am now quite sensitive to the economic calculation argument, but the comment reflected actual experience from my childhood, long before I knew of von Mises.Brian J. Gladishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060107207216764612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-4055757179536153862011-06-17T12:44:53.448-04:002011-06-17T12:44:53.448-04:00Because Rothbard’s non-aggression principle would ...Because Rothbard’s non-aggression principle would effectively abolish war, it’s no wonder that statists are appalled by it. Leftist Murray Polner gives us a reminder of the slaughterhouse that was WWI:<br /><br />http://lewrockwell.com/polner/polner28.1.html<br /><br />And let’s not forget that it was central banking that facilitated the surreptitious funding of the war. Real-time taxation of the rabble to fund the war would have most likely resulted in a revolution. This extra-judicial surreptitious theft perpetuated by the funny money regime is the raison d'etre for both central banking and Keynesianism but which is explained to the dim witted as “scientific”.Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-85877244512245405592011-06-17T10:52:09.819-04:002011-06-17T10:52:09.819-04:00AP:
My bag is already packed. I hear them knockin...AP:<br /><br />My bag is already packed. I hear them knocking now.Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-14875579473299885092011-06-17T10:28:00.706-04:002011-06-17T10:28:00.706-04:00Bob:
you guys are making too much sense for these ...Bob:<br />you guys are making too much sense for these statists. Stop it already.<br />Don't you know that government is all knowing, all loving benevolent entity that is the only salvation?<br />You are all gonna have to be sent to reeducation camps.American Patriothttp://defendourconstitution.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-11677495104956728722011-06-17T10:20:21.304-04:002011-06-17T10:20:21.304-04:00@Brian J. Gladish
Your point is right on point.
...@Brian J. Gladish<br /><br />Your point is right on point.<br /><br />As a general rule, a government cannot conduct informed economic calculation and therefore cannot employ resources in an intelligent manner.Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-70437906714576888022011-06-17T09:33:13.093-04:002011-06-17T09:33:13.093-04:00THE MAJOR PROBLEM of human existence is assaultive...THE MAJOR PROBLEM of human existence is assaultive behavior. The brilliance of Rothbard's formula is that it cures and precludes that problem for all time. Further, it is coextensive with what most people of western cultures already believe and easy for average people to understand. In their normal lives, most people already understand that you don't assault your neighbors or rob them. It is both moral and highly utilitarian in curing mankind's biggest problem.<br /><br />The reason a statist like LK throws a hissy fit about it is because his grandiose schemes to destroy civilization with funny money and debt in a preposterous attempt at curing the non-existent problem of unemployment would be precluded and there would be nothing for him to do.Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-18282901520705474762011-06-17T07:20:31.666-04:002011-06-17T07:20:31.666-04:00"Both you and Bala have been directed to the ..."Both you and Bala have been directed to the refutation of Rothbard's arguments before by a professional philosopher, but you're intellectual cowards and won't respond."<br /><br />And you (and everyone else who attacked natural rights) demonstrated that you are the very epitome of vacuity on the issue of the definition of 'natural rights' and the meaning of the word 'natural' in natural rights. One point that I should add to the list of demands is the definition of the concept 'rights'. You haven't done that either.<br /><br />Basically, you just wax eloquent without defining the terms you are talking of. You claim to have disputed concepts, your understanding of which is ass-backward.<br /><br />"Pretty much sums why no one needs to take you seriously. :)"<br /><br />My point above pretty much sums up why no one needs to take YOU seriously.<br /><br />p.s.: Feser's criticism of Rothbard does not constitute a case against the concept 'natural rights'. So, stop waving that banner in my face unless you want to demonstrate how empty you are.Balanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-14718452956523934752011-06-17T02:03:31.391-04:002011-06-17T02:03:31.391-04:00"the VA system is cheaper and more effective ..."the VA system is cheaper and more effective than our private system"<br /><br />You could ask former Congressman John Murtha his opinion of this reality-free remark, but you will have to use a necromancer to contact him, thanks to the superior VA system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-45114382113547501962011-06-17T01:45:58.181-04:002011-06-17T01:45:58.181-04:00Maybe the discussion has drifted too far for this ...Maybe the discussion has drifted too far for this to seem relevant, but I grew up as the son of an NCO in the Air Force, and my mother constantly sought healthcare for me outside the incompetents that "practiced" medicine in the military. Of course I was not wounded in combat and was not the focus of that expertise that is, unfortunately, so much in demand at the moment.Brian J. Gladishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060107207216764612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-67805646198834968402011-06-17T01:40:03.762-04:002011-06-17T01:40:03.762-04:00"Well you just lost any credibility you might..."Well you just lost any credibility you might have had. Did you really just imply that the entire US armed forces consists of nothing less than people who murder other people's parents?"<br /><br />I had credibility?<br /><br />Ill come clean, you got me. Not everyone the us military murders is a parent, some of them are only children.ekeyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17413110869433997820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-72887779573199390582011-06-17T01:29:43.215-04:002011-06-17T01:29:43.215-04:00correction:
"Economic calculation has nothin...correction:<br /><br />"Economic calculation has nothing to do with the Feser's refuation <b>of</b> Rothbard."Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-65322111040200387102011-06-17T01:28:18.620-04:002011-06-17T01:28:18.620-04:00"Feser's "argument" is pathetic...<i>"Feser's "argument" is pathetic."</i><br /><br />In other words, you have no response, no arguments. You're basically admitting defeat. You can't answer him.<br /><br /><i>LK doesn't even understand LK doesn't economic calculation.</i><br /><br />Economic calculation has nothing to do with the Feser's refuation do Rothbard. We're talking about philosophy of ethics.<br /><br /><i>I'm always amazed at the thin gruel these statists rely upon to justify assaultive behavior. </i><br /><br />Again, Feser is himself a libertarian:<br /><br /><i>"I should also make it clear that my low opinion of Rothbard’s philosophical abilities has nothing to do with the particular conclusions he wants to defend. I certainly share his hostility to slavery, socialism, communism, and egalitarian liberalism. I also agree that much of what modern governments do is morally indefensible and that many of the taxes levied by modern governments (maybe even most of them) are unjust."</i><br /><br />http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2009/08/rothbard-as-philosopher.html<br /><br />Looks like you didn't even read it properly.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-20231773840733987062011-06-17T01:22:07.143-04:002011-06-17T01:22:07.143-04:00Feser's "argument" is pathetic. I g...Feser's "argument" is pathetic. I guess that makes LK the "half-wit" not to be taken seriously. Gee, maybe we do own everyone else except ourselves! I never thought of that!<br /><br />LK doesn't even understand economic calculation.<br /><br />I'm always amazed at the thin gruel these statists rely upon to justify assaultive behavior.Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-25692020116707663192011-06-17T00:00:36.839-04:002011-06-17T00:00:36.839-04:00The idea that the moral worth of an action is dete...The idea that the moral worth of an action is determined solely by its usefulness in maximizing utility is a shallow, intellectually lazy concept.<br /><br />I am glad you weren't one of the founding fathers. Come to think of it, they would have branded you a moron.<br /><br />To Anonymous:<br />I don't know if that is you but stop trolling my blog and leaving your childishly stupid comments. If you do not find it worthy of your high intel level, go visit a progressive blog. Then you can all comment back and forth happily in your ignorance.American Patriothttp://defendourconstitution.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-68380770807136000382011-06-16T23:05:48.817-04:002011-06-16T23:05:48.817-04:00"Finally, I understand that the holocaust was...<i>"Finally, I understand that the holocaust was just fine and wiping out the Native Americans was cool"</i><br /><br />Typical B.S.. You think natural rights theory is the ONLY ethical theory that can show why these things are wrong? Anyone holding:<br /><br />(1) Kantian ethics;<br />(2) the Pluralistic deontology, the non-absolutist ethics of W.D. Ross<br />(3) Rawls's Human rights objectivism, or<br />(4) rule consequentialism<br /><br />can also show on <i>objective</i> moral grounds why the holocaust and mass murder etc is immoral.<br /><br /><i>" Morality must always be determined by majorities because there is no inherent good or evil."</i><br /><br />= Pure idiocy. All the theories above are <i>objective</i> ethical theories. Utilitarianism does NOT determine morality by majority vote, and that has been explained to you before, but you’re too stupid to address it, but repeat the same straw man argument and appeal to emotion fallacy.<br /><br />Again, no need to take you seriously any time soon.<br /><br />Try addressing Feser's arguments:<br /><br />http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2009/08/rothbard-as-philosopher.html<br /><br />You're not up to the challenge because you're a half-wit.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6276561747841568697.post-46421130983697747772011-06-16T22:39:34.873-04:002011-06-16T22:39:34.873-04:00Rothbard does not subscribe to the vital importanc...<em>Rothbard does not subscribe to the vital importance of civil society</em><br /><br />Of course he does. He subscribes to a prohibition on the initiation of force which leaves everyone quite civil.Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.com